Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
....hmmm, it's extremely uncommon for people to die from alcohol withdrawal except if they have a history of fits in the past while withdrawing from alcohol and I'm sure her doctors must have adviced her accordingly......we still await the outcome of the Autopsy result though.
Freudian- Posts : 1
Join date : 2011-08-04
Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
What is fact and what the family want to believe as to the reason she died are two seperate things.
Pete- Posts : 1
Join date : 2011-08-04
Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
It just goes to show the effect a celebrity can have on young people. She drinks herself to death now they are trying to do the same.
Without doubt, her fine voice is a dreadful loss but in the final analysis nobody twisted her arm and forced to take drugs or launch an onslaught on her liver. If anyone is to blame its the person who first introduced her to drugs. This person effectively killed her and for this reason alone the penalties for carrying, using or supplying drugs must be increased to a maximum which ensure that these people are never able to harm other people again. Getting rid of drugs in this country would not be difficult if the penalties were designed to fit the crime and reflect the dreadful damage they cause. Drug pushes have no value to society and are the worst type of parasites.
They kill people and for their reward they too should be killed. Let's see then who is to be the next pusher!
Malaya has the death penalty for drug offences and has no drug problems. It does execute a pusher every now and again but can anyone deny that this is not great value for money?
Jonte- Posts : 3
Join date : 2011-07-21
Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Quitting the drink killed her ??? So it was nothing to do with the actual damage the years of binge drinking, vast amounts of hard core drugs and whatever other garbage she was putting into her system.
Mr.halberstam- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
3 weeks to kick in, yeah right.
She most likely died from years of abuse she put her body through, not from an OD.
darkflame- Posts : 15
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
I have never seen a family in such denial. Her last binge is well documented, along with her determination to join the 27 club.
If I was her father, instead of traveling the world trying to launch a career on her name, I would have chained her to her bedroom wall or uninhabited island for a year.
If I was her father, instead of traveling the world trying to launch a career on her name, I would have chained her to her bedroom wall or uninhabited island for a year.
professor97- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
This is ridicolous...
Gianmaria- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
These so-called fans are dumb...Why r they outsiude her house with cans of beer???
Shante- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
so nothing to do with the copious amount of drugs that the woman snorted, smoked etc. sorry to be the arbiter of bad news in this winehouse love in, once a junkie, always a junkie. its as simple as that
therockmeister- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Speculation. Nothing more.
Multivitamin- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
What a load of garbage. As someone who is very,very knowledgeable in this area I think this story is totally wrong.
Viqu- Posts : 5
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Please let this story end now and let Amy rest in peace. Keeping it rolling on won't change what killed her and won't bring her back. Let her parents and the rest of her family grieve in relative peace, they in turn will inform anyone who is interested what the results of The Autopsy is.
My deep sympathy and heartfelt codolences go out to her family.
My deep sympathy and heartfelt codolences go out to her family.
tartanheather- Posts : 6
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Doubtfully the real cause. RIP
W00sh- Posts : 2
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Christ, look at that face in the last fan photo, forget letting her arm go around me, i'd run for my life!
lol @ all the people that think she is in the clouds somewhere.
She is nothing now, just nothingness, maybe that's all the peace we will be able to obtain we just won't ever know about it, the irony!
darkflame- Posts : 15
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
I can quite believe that it was withdrawal from the booze that killed her as it happened to my brother-in-law last year. He became ill with an alchhol related illness and although he was given anti withdrawal meds he still sadly passed away from complications
hardingclan- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
therockmeister wrote:so nothing to do with the copious amount of drugs that the woman snorted, smoked etc. sorry to be the arbiter of bad news in this winehouse love in, once a junkie, always a junkie. its as simple as that
your statement shows you have no knowledge on so called junkies. Once a junkie always a junkie, is downright despicable, there are loads of drug addicts out there who have managed to get off drugs and spend years making up for the devastation they have caused in there lives. What makes it harder is people like you with your ignorance who will never let them forget there past. And what about the ppl who have different drug habits, like speed, ecstacy etc... Do they get tarnished with the same brush... No.My 2 brothers took herion for yrs and 1 also had alcohol addiction. Unfortunately the 1 wth alcohol problems died from ALCOHOLIC LIVER DISEASE. and not the drugs, but my other 1 has been clean from herion for 4 yrs so is he still a junkie. No hes some1 who made mistakes in life like we all do. If u have no experience on alcohol or drugs ppl should keep there opinions to themselves, or even better get urself some knowledge on the facts then will see how stupid ur comments r.
R.I.P Amy
lizmac5- Posts : 3
Join date : 2011-08-04
Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Let's wait for the toxicology report to find out the cause.
As for the comments on her talent. that's about perspective and tastes. I don't like her music but I'll admit she and most people on the planet have more musical talent than me.
As for the comments that try to place her as a innocent that has done no wrong or harmed anyone, and that was led down this path.
She choose to start down these paths. She choose to associate with people on these paths
Check out court records for about 3 years ago on violent attacks at charity events. check out Norways files on her. Check out the reasons why she was refused entry to USA. If anyone else that wasn't a celeb done 1/2 the things she had they would be cast in not such a shining light
As for the comments on her talent. that's about perspective and tastes. I don't like her music but I'll admit she and most people on the planet have more musical talent than me.
As for the comments that try to place her as a innocent that has done no wrong or harmed anyone, and that was led down this path.
She choose to start down these paths. She choose to associate with people on these paths
Check out court records for about 3 years ago on violent attacks at charity events. check out Norways files on her. Check out the reasons why she was refused entry to USA. If anyone else that wasn't a celeb done 1/2 the things she had they would be cast in not such a shining light
JASJEE- Posts : 5
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Nothing to do with the drugs she has been using for years? What a total waste and another sad story of wasted youth! RIP
Linsell- Posts : 11
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
People should just accept it; take drugs, risk death.
Harsh but true, cant handle it? tough.
Harsh but true, cant handle it? tough.
Cs2511- Posts : 2
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
it annoys me sooo much, when a person is given a talent and they take it for granted and waste there life , gazza and george best. enough about this poor role model and junkie. good riddance. i wont have to turn the tv over no more when shes staggering about drunk and my young daughter thinking she was great. well she wasnt, she was just another junkie who had one fix too many.
scott1968- Posts : 2
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
it was the drink and drugs that killed amy winehouse not giving up drink and drugs,her parents need to accept the truth that she had a massive drink and drug addiction and that is what killed her,
Renegade1974- Posts : 2
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
I think it was a very generous gesture for Mitch to hand some of her clothes out to her fans. Regardless of what any drugs or alcohol did to her, she was, for the most part, a very nice, kindhearted person. I hope that this, along with her enormous talent, is how she will be remembered.
Here's what I know as fact: When our Mother died, my brother, who had been an alcoholic for many years, drank to the point of liver failure. He was immediately hospitalized. The doctors told me that he would be kept on a strict schedule of sedatives, because for someone who is truly an alcoholic, the seizures from sudden withdrawl can be FATAL. Thankfully, my beloved brother has fully recovered, and been clean for almost 4 years now. I don't pretent to know what happened to Amy, but I do know that what the doctors are telling her family is indeed factual.
Here's what I know as fact: When our Mother died, my brother, who had been an alcoholic for many years, drank to the point of liver failure. He was immediately hospitalized. The doctors told me that he would be kept on a strict schedule of sedatives, because for someone who is truly an alcoholic, the seizures from sudden withdrawl can be FATAL. Thankfully, my beloved brother has fully recovered, and been clean for almost 4 years now. I don't pretent to know what happened to Amy, but I do know that what the doctors are telling her family is indeed factual.
Mindy- Posts : 4
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Seriously, guys - do you proof read your comments before posting them?! I don't understand why some people are so bitter and full of hatred?! She was a musician, who has sadly passed - what's with all the judgmental and nasty comments?
Yes, she used drugs. Yes, she drank alcohol. Both to excess, she was an adult and this was her choice. I have worked in alcohol/ substance misuse for a number of years so know a little about the subject - withdrawal from drugs can be a absolutely horrific and can make someone feel like they're going to die, but this will rarely happen. However, alcohol withdrawal is incredibly dangerous, which is why Doctors generally advise people to cut down gradually or use drugs such as librium to prevent people from experiencing some of the worst side affects - including major seizures, which can kill. Many people recover from the health problems caused by drug usage, however, the damage caused by alcohol is more likely to be permanent.
None of us live perfect lives. What gives everybody here the right to judge?! "Good riddance" ?! "She's a junkie, she bought it on herself" ?! How would your family feel if someone said this about you when you're gone?! It's utterly disgraceful and you people should feel ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to become so bitter and twisted about someone you didn't know, who you only know through the media's eyes and just wrote music for her job.
Many, many people take substances. Legal/ illegal, taxable/ prescribed. Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sugar even - these are all more socially acceptable substances which have an impact on our bodies and mental state. A large amount of the population rely on them to help them cope with their daily lives and things that have happened to them. It's no difference with other substances. People take drugs because, like it or not, they have fun and/ or they help them to forget their problems.
Yes, she used drugs. Yes, she drank alcohol. Both to excess, she was an adult and this was her choice. I have worked in alcohol/ substance misuse for a number of years so know a little about the subject - withdrawal from drugs can be a absolutely horrific and can make someone feel like they're going to die, but this will rarely happen. However, alcohol withdrawal is incredibly dangerous, which is why Doctors generally advise people to cut down gradually or use drugs such as librium to prevent people from experiencing some of the worst side affects - including major seizures, which can kill. Many people recover from the health problems caused by drug usage, however, the damage caused by alcohol is more likely to be permanent.
None of us live perfect lives. What gives everybody here the right to judge?! "Good riddance" ?! "She's a junkie, she bought it on herself" ?! How would your family feel if someone said this about you when you're gone?! It's utterly disgraceful and you people should feel ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to become so bitter and twisted about someone you didn't know, who you only know through the media's eyes and just wrote music for her job.
Many, many people take substances. Legal/ illegal, taxable/ prescribed. Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sugar even - these are all more socially acceptable substances which have an impact on our bodies and mental state. A large amount of the population rely on them to help them cope with their daily lives and things that have happened to them. It's no difference with other substances. People take drugs because, like it or not, they have fun and/ or they help them to forget their problems.
Agnostic84- Posts : 3
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
let's stop speculating and accusing, and wait for the tox result.
diggery- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
A friend of mine took a really bad seizure when he tried to stop drinking, caused him a lot of damage and had to have surgery, thankfully not fatal but could have been
kmkirsty- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
I Thought her mum was with her 24 hours before she died? She said in her first interview after she found out Amy died, that Amy was wasted when she left her, So they knew she wasn't sober. RIP Amy - your talent will always come first.
Nikita-s- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
No I'm pretty sure it was how much she drank before she quit!
Jasonakajizzy- Posts : 22
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
FGS She was intoxicated when she was in concert in Serbia that's why she cancelled as she has so many times before.. We saw this ourselves on the news. I don't think her parents are doing her any favours trying to cover that up. Yes she was an absolute legend but stop lying. I watched her story the other night on tv it said she was 5ft 3 now she was 4ft 11. If she was in that state at one of her concerts then what was she like behind closed doors. Her mum said she seemed out of it when she saw her the day before she died. I personally think she may have had a heart attack brought on by all the alcahol and lack of eating as she was so frail. All of a sudden mitch wants to have a foundation for addicts. Why now? It is such a sad thing Amy has died so young but we all knew it was expected even her own parents. Let's just remember the Legend and let her RIP. So many ppl are being blamed for her death when the only one to blame is Amy herself.The ppl that are getting out of it outside her house are really pathetic. What is it telling everyone? that we should all get drunk and take drugs?
lol51- Posts : 12
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Agnostic84 wrote:Seriously, guys - do you proof read your comments before posting them?! I don't understand why some people are so bitter and full of hatred?! She was a musician, who has sadly passed - what's with all the judgmental and nasty comments?
Yes, she used drugs. Yes, she drank alcohol. Both to excess, she was an adult and this was her choice. I have worked in alcohol/ substance misuse for a number of years so know a little about the subject - withdrawal from drugs can be a absolutely horrific and can make someone feel like they're going to die, but this will rarely happen. However, alcohol withdrawal is incredibly dangerous, which is why Doctors generally advise people to cut down gradually or use drugs such as librium to prevent people from experiencing some of the worst side affects - including major seizures, which can kill. Many people recover from the health problems caused by drug usage, however, the damage caused by alcohol is more likely to be permanent.
None of us live perfect lives. What gives everybody here the right to judge?! "Good riddance" ?! "She's a junkie, she bought it on herself" ?! How would your family feel if someone said this about you when you're gone?! It's utterly disgraceful and you people should feel ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to become so bitter and twisted about someone you didn't know, who you only know through the media's eyes and just wrote music for her job.
Many, many people take substances. Legal/ illegal, taxable/ prescribed. Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sugar even - these are all more socially acceptable substances which have an impact on our bodies and mental state. A large amount of the population rely on them to help them cope with their daily lives and things that have happened to them. It's no difference with other substances. People take drugs because, like it or not, they have fun and/ or they help them to forget their problems.
i dont care if people take drugs, she was an adult and it was her choice. what i objected to was in her role as britains most succesful artiste, she has got a moral obligation to set some sort of example to the thousands if not millions of children who follow her life. but she couldnt give a damn about them, her parents or anyone else except herself. do you think when she arrived on stage in serbia, where thousands of fans paid good money to see her sing. and she comes on stage unable to talk let alone sing.she did what she wanted and now shes gone. what more can you say. i dont remember her doing one good thing with her fame. its all been negative. she lived a car crash life and the car has now been written off. i can clearly see her parents, management and record label did all they could for her and i feel deeply soyy for her parents, but she didnt care about them. she was selfish and she has now paid the price. there are thousands of addicts out there who cant just walk into the priory, but she could and she didnt care.
scott1968- Posts : 2
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Agnostic84 wrote:Seriously, guys - do you proof read your comments before posting them?! I don't understand why some people are so bitter and full of hatred?! She was a musician, who has sadly passed - what's with all the judgmental and nasty comments?
Yes, she used drugs. Yes, she drank alcohol. Both to excess, she was an adult and this was her choice. I have worked in alcohol/ substance misuse for a number of years so know a little about the subject - withdrawal from drugs can be a absolutely horrific and can make someone feel like they're going to die, but this will rarely happen. However, alcohol withdrawal is incredibly dangerous, which is why Doctors generally advise people to cut down gradually or use drugs such as librium to prevent people from experiencing some of the worst side affects - including major seizures, which can kill. Many people recover from the health problems caused by drug usage, however, the damage caused by alcohol is more likely to be permanent.
None of us live perfect lives. What gives everybody here the right to judge?! "Good riddance" ?! "She's a junkie, she bought it on herself" ?! How would your family feel if someone said this about you when you're gone?! It's utterly disgraceful and you people should feel ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to become so bitter and twisted about someone you didn't know, who you only know through the media's eyes and just wrote music for her job.
Many, many people take substances. Legal/ illegal, taxable/ prescribed. Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sugar even - these are all more socially acceptable substances which have an impact on our bodies and mental state. A large amount of the population rely on them to help them cope with their daily lives and things that have happened to them. It's no difference with other substances. People take drugs because, like it or not, they have fun and/ or they help them to forget their problems.
It is true. Noone forced her to take them are you trying to say otherwise? I take sugar in my tea. Would I take drugs...NO WAY!!! She had many problems and was not lucky in love and deserved better than what she got but the fact is she took the drugs on top of booze. If you worked in that field then you should know more than anyone that a person who takes drugs and booze on her level are in danger of having a short life span
lol51- Posts : 12
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
GREAT SHAME BUT I THINK HER BODY JUST GAVE UP FROM SO MUCH ABUSE FROM DRUGS & DRINK
Arealmanutdfan- Posts : 12
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
What a load of BS she killed herself through her booze and drugs lifestyle and a bloody shame too her musical talent had no boundaries
Torchlabour- Posts : 2
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
What a load of rot, dying by not drinking, the mind boggles.
robbed- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
stop putting her on a pedistal she was a disgrace you are making her a roll model for the younger generation
Marinerfan- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Hope this death isn't hyped up as much as Michael Jackson's.God,that was annoying.All it ever was when MJ died was Michael Jackson this and Michael Jackson that.It's still hyped up pretty bad now.
Dalekbuster523- Posts : 5
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Yeah Right
RolanTheRat- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
Interesting all the comments from those who like to talk the talk without having walked the walk.
socialist_disease- Posts : 5
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
scott1968 wrote:Agnostic84 wrote:Seriously, guys - do you proof read your comments before posting them?! I don't understand why some people are so bitter and full of hatred?! She was a musician, who has sadly passed - what's with all the judgmental and nasty comments?
Yes, she used drugs. Yes, she drank alcohol. Both to excess, she was an adult and this was her choice. I have worked in alcohol/ substance misuse for a number of years so know a little about the subject - withdrawal from drugs can be a absolutely horrific and can make someone feel like they're going to die, but this will rarely happen. However, alcohol withdrawal is incredibly dangerous, which is why Doctors generally advise people to cut down gradually or use drugs such as librium to prevent people from experiencing some of the worst side affects - including major seizures, which can kill. Many people recover from the health problems caused by drug usage, however, the damage caused by alcohol is more likely to be permanent.
None of us live perfect lives. What gives everybody here the right to judge?! "Good riddance" ?! "She's a junkie, she bought it on herself" ?! How would your family feel if someone said this about you when you're gone?! It's utterly disgraceful and you people should feel ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to become so bitter and twisted about someone you didn't know, who you only know through the media's eyes and just wrote music for her job.
Many, many people take substances. Legal/ illegal, taxable/ prescribed. Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sugar even - these are all more socially acceptable substances which have an impact on our bodies and mental state. A large amount of the population rely on them to help them cope with their daily lives and things that have happened to them. It's no difference with other substances. People take drugs because, like it or not, they have fun and/ or they help them to forget their problems.
i dont care if people take drugs, she was an adult and it was her choice. what i objected to was in her role as britains most succesful artiste, she has got a moral obligation to set some sort of example to the thousands if not millions of children who follow her life. but she couldnt give a damn about them, her parents or anyone else except herself. do you think when she arrived on stage in serbia, where thousands of fans paid good money to see her sing. and she comes on stage unable to talk let alone sing.she did what she wanted and now shes gone. what more can you say. i dont remember her doing one good thing with her fame. its all been negative. she lived a car crash life and the car has now been written off. i can clearly see her parents, management and record label did all they could for her and i feel deeply soyy for her parents, but she didnt care about them. she was selfish and she has now paid the price. there are thousands of addicts out there who cant just walk into the priory, but she could and she didnt care.
I think that the record companies and her management team need to accept some responsibility for placing her in that situation. Until she had a considerable amount of clean time, she shouldn't have been allowed on stage - let alone placed on her "big comeback" tour. Unfortunately, it's the nature of the beast as she was in the music business, the key word being business! Due to her being in the depths of her addiction, they hadn't been able to milk that metaphorical "cash cow" for some time. They wanted to make more money out of her, so they irresponsibly placed her in that position when it was pretty obvious she wasn't ready.
Unfortunately, when people are in the grip of addiction, they lead very selfish lives - whatever substance they are addicted to becomes their priority and takes over their lives. However, this is a temporary state and can be overcome, but only once that person is ready to address it and the time is right for them. Sometimes this will last months, sometimes years, sometimes decades - it really depends on the individual. Yes, she had the opportunity to go to the priory - but the time wasn't right. Also, rehab isn't the miracle cure that everyone thinks. It has an incredibly low success rate, which isn't often spoken about, I could well be wrong but I think the figure is something crazy like 2%. Sometimes people may go through many tens of detox programs or stints in rehab before they reach total abstinence, however the risk of relapse is always present.
I also understand your frustrations about her being a role model and children looking up to her, but do the media really need to give so much exposure to someone who is clearly struggling?! Sometimes, I think dealing with these things behind closed doors may be a more appropriate way to address these issues and manage them. Especially in the UK, people love to watch the rich and famous collapse for some bizarre reason!
Agnostic84- Posts : 3
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
its sad that a 27 year old has died no one deserves to die that young, but this was no tragic accident amy took drugs and drink and put her life in danger by doing it. it was only a matter of 'when' with her.
i do feel sorry for her family though as no family wants to lose a loved one especially not so young.
i do feel sorry for her family though as no family wants to lose a loved one especially not so young.
leannem- Posts : 1
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
lol51 wrote:Agnostic84 wrote:Seriously, guys - do you proof read your comments before posting them?! I don't understand why some people are so bitter and full of hatred?! She was a musician, who has sadly passed - what's with all the judgmental and nasty comments?
Yes, she used drugs. Yes, she drank alcohol. Both to excess, she was an adult and this was her choice. I have worked in alcohol/ substance misuse for a number of years so know a little about the subject - withdrawal from drugs can be a absolutely horrific and can make someone feel like they're going to die, but this will rarely happen. However, alcohol withdrawal is incredibly dangerous, which is why Doctors generally advise people to cut down gradually or use drugs such as librium to prevent people from experiencing some of the worst side affects - including major seizures, which can kill. Many people recover from the health problems caused by drug usage, however, the damage caused by alcohol is more likely to be permanent.
None of us live perfect lives. What gives everybody here the right to judge?! "Good riddance" ?! "She's a junkie, she bought it on herself" ?! How would your family feel if someone said this about you when you're gone?! It's utterly disgraceful and you people should feel ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to become so bitter and twisted about someone you didn't know, who you only know through the media's eyes and just wrote music for her job.
Many, many people take substances. Legal/ illegal, taxable/ prescribed. Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sugar even - these are all more socially acceptable substances which have an impact on our bodies and mental state. A large amount of the population rely on them to help them cope with their daily lives and things that have happened to them. It's no difference with other substances. People take drugs because, like it or not, they have fun and/ or they help them to forget their problems.
It is true. Noone forced her to take them are you trying to say otherwise? I take sugar in my tea. Would I take drugs...NO WAY!!! She had many problems and was not lucky in love and deserved better than what she got but the fact is she took the drugs on top of booze. If you worked in that field then you should know more than anyone that a person who takes drugs and booze on her level are in danger of having a short life span
no, I was saying exactly that. It was her choice to take drugs and drink to excess. I used sugar as an example as the body and brain respond to it like a drug - i.e. release of endorphins, cravings, euphoric highs. Potentially, yes, people who drink and take drugs do risk having a shorter life span, but I think most people would be surprised at how much punishment the body can take and how resilient people can be!
She had allegedly been clean of hard drugs for 3 years (I have no idea whether this was true) but you can often tell from someone's physical appearance whether someone is using drugs like heroin or crack. Although recently she still didn't look that great, there's a clear difference in her appearance compared to when she was off her face with Mr Doherty. I think lots of people don't realise how damaging alcohol can be. Although she had a history of using hard drugs, it doesn't necessarily mean that was what killed her. Alcohol can cause serious harm, the main reason why I commented on this post is because the amount of people who were discounting the idea that alcohol withdrawal could be responsible for her death, but it is a HUGE risk to people who are physically dependent on it. Hence why gradual withdrawal from it is recommended, or if someone cannot drink (i.e. in detox or hospital where they don't have access to any alcohol) drugs like librium would be used to counteract the potentially fatal effects.
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
SHUT UP EVERYONE.This is not what her family needs right now.
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Viqu wrote:
SHUT UP EVERYONE.This is not what her family needs right now.
I take it you are not a signed up member for free speech then!
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It was her choice to use drugs and alcohol instead of seeking professional treatment for her bipolar disorder (if indeed it was ever truly diagnosed) It was also her choice to stop drinking cold turkey rather than follow her doctor's instructions to cut down gradually.
Unfortunately no one had the courage to step in and really take control of this girl- Not even her parents. How very very sad that no one cared enough about her.
Unfortunately no one had the courage to step in and really take control of this girl- Not even her parents. How very very sad that no one cared enough about her.
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Re: Amy Winehouse family fear she was killed by giving up alcohol Body 'couldn't take withdrawal'
my gran took prescribed medication for a thyroid problem she became addicted to it when doctors realised the medication was highly addictive they stop prescribing it..because they didnt wean my gran off it she became a paranoid schizophrenic... this is the danger of just stopping an addiciton instead of taking things slowly if it doesnt lead to your body shutting down it leads to mental health problems....So i had alot of sympathy for amy...the effects of any addiction is devasting for everyone around the person with the addiction...i only knew my gran as a shell who talked and shouted at herself ..she was ridiculed as well for something that wasnt her fault ...people can say what they like about addicition but you can only truely know what its like unless youve had first hand experience of it...
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What a nice thing Amy´s Dad did.
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I'm appalled if it is true that her doctor advised her to "cut down gradually" her alcohol consumption!!~WTF?? Once the alcoholic takes a drink, the alcohol is in control!~ Anyone with knowledge of addiction knows that the inability to control drinking is at the heart of the addiction!! I've been sober since 1996 and have personal experience with detox, rehab, sober living settings, 12-step programs....and in the recovery community it is well known that withdrawal from alcohol addiction can indeed be deadly. I was taught that noone has ever died from opiate withdrawal, or withdrawal from other drugs, but people CAN DIE FROM ALCOHOL WITHDRAWAL! I would think that Amy would have been receiving topnotch treatment, including having undergone a medical detox in a hospital setting under close supervision of health care professionals. NO LEGITIMATE ADDICTION SPECIALIST WOULD EVER INSTRUCT A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC/ADDICT TO SELF-REGULATE THEIR CONSUMPTION OF THE DRINK/DRUG THEY'RE HOOKED ON!!! IT IS NOT POSSIBLE! If one were able to do that, they would not have a drink/drug problem, for God's sake!! I sincerely pray that this report is erroneous and that AW was not cut loose by her medical team and expected to wean herself....that is a prescription for tragedy. Bless Her Soul.
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And my sincere condolences to Amy's family, friends and fans. She was a precious jewel that sparkled and shone so brilliantly! She is loved by many and I pray that her family feels all the love coming to them and are able to take some comfort knowing that her friends and fans recognized what made her so breathtakingly special. Thank you to them for sharing her with the world. Peace, love and light!
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For those saying that there is no way she died from withdraw, you clearly have no clue about the situation. People can and DO die from the "DT's", know a man who has drank heavilly and regularly for years and years...was instructed to not quit as he would most likely die.
"In the U.S., about 50% to 60% of alcoholics will develop any significant withdrawal symptoms upon cessation of alcohol intake, and of these, only 5% of cases of acute ethanol withdrawal progress to DT.[1] Unlike the withdrawal syndrome associated with opiate dependence, DT (and alcohol withdrawal in general) can be fatal. Mortality was as high as 35% before the advent of intensive care and advanced pharmacotherapy; in the modern era of medicine, death rates range from 5-15%.[1]"
"In the U.S., about 50% to 60% of alcoholics will develop any significant withdrawal symptoms upon cessation of alcohol intake, and of these, only 5% of cases of acute ethanol withdrawal progress to DT.[1] Unlike the withdrawal syndrome associated with opiate dependence, DT (and alcohol withdrawal in general) can be fatal. Mortality was as high as 35% before the advent of intensive care and advanced pharmacotherapy; in the modern era of medicine, death rates range from 5-15%.[1]"
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Anyone saying you Can't die from withdrawal Clearly has not experienced it YOU CAN DIE FROM WITHDRAWAL I have managed to beat the drink and got very ill on several Occasions from not having any Drink Here's The Proof
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/alcohol/Pages/Alcoholsupport.aspx .. If your body has become dependent on booze, stopping drinking overnight can be life-threatening, so get advice about cutting down gradually. So Before you Comment GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT RATHER THAN COMMENT ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW **** ALL ABOUT
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/alcohol/Pages/Alcoholsupport.aspx .. If your body has become dependent on booze, stopping drinking overnight can be life-threatening, so get advice about cutting down gradually. So Before you Comment GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT RATHER THAN COMMENT ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW **** ALL ABOUT
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